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			<title><![CDATA[Réponse à&#160;:  Rented property to be sold...3 questions]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Welkom! But that&#039;s about the only word in Dutch I could use without fault.</p><p>(Belgium, the country where peopole speak a foreign language to understand each other... <img src="https://forum.pim.be/plugins/ezbbc/style/smilies/yikes.png" alt="yikes" /> )</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>1. We are renting the house and a large garden.<br />In the letter he mentions now that the large garden is a building plot and will be sold separately<br />What happens if the &quot;garden&quot; is sold? Can the new owners of the &quot;garden&quot; come onto the grounds and start building because we are still renting it together with the house?<br />Or does the current owner needs to change our contract and rent price because we no longer have access to our garden?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>It&#039;s a very strange situation! I guess you should renegociate the contract. Because the owner can&#039;t change the object of the contract without your consent.</p><p>If the garden is sold separately, I guess the new owner still need to respect the contract... and you should pay a part of the rent to him.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>2. When we moved in we received a &quot;description of the property&quot; but unfortunatly this was in French so we did not understand what is all said.<br />The owner said he paid the expert for us and was going to translate it but we nver got it. We never signed/agreed this &quot;PV etat de lieux&quot; of the property as we could not understand it. So did we rent a propery without a &#039;etat de lieux&#039; and what does that mean when we leave?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>If the expert is a good one, he asked you to sign a &quot;mandat&quot; where you gave him the power to do the &quot;état des lieux&quot;</p><p>In this case, the expert did his job for you and for the owner, and the état des lieux is 100% valid.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>3.We got e letter from the landlord that he is going to sell the property and gave us the option to buy the house or terminate the rent.<br />This is the text<br />&quot;....inlicht opdat jullie over<br />de nodige tijd kunnen beschikken om zelf de nodige maatregelingen te treffen hetzij<br />voor aankoop, hetzij voor beëindigen van de huur&quot;</p></div></blockquote></div><p>He is letting you th option to purchase the house, or to leave.&#160; Of course, this is illegal. But what other solution does he have?...</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>This is confusing to us what he means with &quot;hetzij voor beëindigen van de huur&quot;</p><p>-Is the owner suggesting he is terminating the rent or that we terminate the rent?<br />If he terminates it then we have 6 months the time i think and can give a counter notice for 1 month.<br />If the text says we terminate we have to stay 3 months?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>You should ask him, because it is 100% unclear.</p><p>To stay legal, ask him a letter giving you the right to leave with a one month notice. He will probably be very happy to sign it. I would. Because he is in trouble with the contract... and in trouble with the sale of the house.</p><p>Negociate. The best and first good way is negociation (and you are right to ask the questions: know your rights, and you&#039;ll be in better position to negociate...)</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 20:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />I hope it is ok to put this in English. I am Flemish and I do know french but my French is not good enough to be able to explain and I am not sure if i can post in Dutch?</p><p>We have a 9 years rent and are now in our 10th year.<br />The owner is selling the property with garden.<br />1. We are renting the house and a large garden.<br />In the letter he mentions now that the large garden is a building plot and will be sold separately<br />What happens if the &quot;garden&quot; is sold? Can the new owners of the &quot;garden&quot; come onto the grounds and start building because we are still renting it together with the house?<br />Or does the current owner needs to change our contract and rent price because we no longer have access to our garden?</p><p>2. When we moved in we received a &quot;description of the property&quot; but unfortunatly this was in French so we did not understand what is all said.<br />The owner said he paid the expert for us and was going to translate it but we nver got it. We never signed/agreed this &quot;PV etat de lieux&quot; of the property as we could not understand it. So did we rent a propery without a &#039;etat de lieux&#039; and what does that mean when we leave? </p><p>3.We got e letter from the landlord that he is going to sell the property and gave us the option to buy the house or terminate the rent.<br />This is the text<br />&quot;....inlicht opdat jullie over<br />de nodige tijd kunnen beschikken om zelf de nodige maatregelingen te treffen hetzij <br />voor aankoop, hetzij voor beëindigen van de huur&quot;</p><p>This is confusing to us what he means with &quot;hetzij voor beëindigen van de huur&quot;</p><p>-Is the owner suggesting he is terminating the rent or that we terminate the rent?<br />If he terminates it then we have 6 months the time i think and can give a counter notice for&#160; 1 month.<br />If the text says we terminate we have to stay 3 months?</p><p>Thank you for your help<br />Kind regards<br />Patrick</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 19:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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