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			<title><![CDATA[Réponse à&#160;:  Procedure/recommendation for building insurance change]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Panchito,</p><p>Thanks a bunch for your response.</p><p>Looks like I was indeed under insured. The new proposal from my current insurance broker values the building as per today&#039;s market value (say 450, 000 euro, although sale value per apartment would total&#160; more than 600, 000 euro). The premium becomes close to 600 euro in this case.</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>this is now a &quot;copropriété&quot; having a single roof, as Syndic, you are obliged to take take a single insurance to cover the whole building block.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>The property is indeed &quot;copropriété&quot; with a single roof. If what you state above is 100% true as per law,&#160; we will continue with a single building insurance, making sure we are not under-insured</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 08:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>NB: is it 300€/year??</p><p>If yes you are probably fully under insured...</p><p>I pay more than 500€ for a big house, (not divided, empty, that I rent out), 70 km away from Brussels...</p><p>Moreover there is no choice for the ABEX index, it is enforced, just like the &quot;health&quot; index on which the rent adaptation may be calculated by the landlords.</p><p>For November 2012, the ABEX index = 729</p><p>Just have a look <a href="http://www.abex.be/modules/icontent/index.php?page=13" rel="nofollow">HERE</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 20:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>In parellel, I visited KBC and they suggested separate building insurance for each apartment:</p></div></blockquote></div><p>As often, bankers don&#039;t know how to be professional insurers;</p><p>Since this is now a &quot;copropriété&quot; having a single roof, as Syndic, you are obliged to take take a single insurance to cover the whole building block.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 20:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful Folks,</p><p>I am a honorary syndic for a small &quot;maison d&#039;maitre&quot; converted to three apartments way back in 70s. I own two apartments and my quotie part is, unfortunately, 80%.WE are only two owners.</p><p>[color=#004BE0] Current insurance :&#160; &#160;Incendie risques simples ABEX 690, conditional-risk [/couleur]<br />Currently, we have one single insurance for the whole building (including three apartments) with AXA ,&quot;&#039;Police: Incendie risques simples(HABITATIOn L&#039;INDICE ABEX 690)&quot;&#160; which costs us around 300 euro</p><p>On my request to verify if we have sufficient covergae, the agent visited and proposed me to upgrade our insuarnce to a&#160; New capital of 450, 000 euro ( ABEX 711), resulting in double the premium</p><p>[color=#004BE0] Another Proposal :&#160; &#160;Incendie risques all-risk ABEX 711 [/couleur]</p><p>In parellel, I visited KBC and they suggested separate building insurance for each apartment:</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p><span class="bbu">(apartment 1 where landlord lives, owner I):<br /></span><br />ABEX 711 *(building all risk, content-multi-risk)* for the apartment where landlord lives .</p><p>KBC says their all-risk policy is highly recomemnded by test-achats, as their insurance covers everything, all risk, not conditional; They say *everything is covered* and no conditions are attached. They looked at my current policy and said it is conditional (example, damage claim only possible if there is a storm &amp;gt;80 km hour resulting in roof damage etc)</p><p><span class="bbu">(apartment 2 which is rented, owner 1):<br /></span><br /> As tenant already has a tenant liability insurance, proposed an *multi-risk* for building only.</p><p><span class="bbu">(apartment 3 , owner 2):</span><br />second owner takes the insurance themselves for their apartment</p></div></blockquote></div><p>As a owner with 80% quotiate part, I am interested in taking building insurance per apartment. Being the syndic, I intend to do by officially calling the second owner for a meeting and recording it in &quot;process verballe&quot; that, effective this date, each owner is responsible for insuring their building on their own.</p><p>Although, the second owner is living out of the country, tried to sell his/her apartment 6 months ago through an agent but stuck at &quot;compromise de vente&quot;, as the building plan doesn&#039;t comply with &#039;communale/urbanisme&#039; town plan for that apartment. </p><p>Do not known if/how/when the sale will happen but apparently, second owner doesn&#039;t pay any charges <img src="https://forum.pim.be/plugins/ezbbc/style/smilies/sad.png" alt="sad" /><br />Meantime, through a lawyer, new buyer is chasing II owner to sell at a rock bottom price .</p><br /><p><span class="bbu">(1) Any suggestions what kind of of insurance we keep for a &quot;maison de maitre&quot; with three apartments from 1970s?&#160; ABEX 690 or ABEX 711?<br /></span></p><br /><p><span class="bbu">(2) What is the practice? Do you recommend keeping a &quot;single building insurance&quot; for three apartments or breaking it into individual building insurance per apartment?</span></p><br /><p>With only two owners, given the circumstances that II owner doesn&#039;t respond to letters or email or don&#039;t pay , I want to send registered letters inviting him/her for a &#039;assemble generale&#039;&#160; meeting for changing from &quot;single building insurance&quot; to &quot;each owner takes his/her building insurance model&quot;. After the second invitation, as I know she won&#039;t attend, as the syndic, we will make a &#039;process verbale&#039; confirming change of building insurance to per apartment from so and so date. </p><p><span class="bbu">(3) Making a regulation change for the apartment -on the second &#039;assemble generale&#039; , if second owner misses both meeting despite informing in all official channels-ageIs this approach *Legally right*?<br /></span></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 19:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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